Talk:Front crawl
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I rearranged the language in the 3rd paragraph of the History section to hopefully make it a little more understandable. Could someone please verify it to be sure it is correct? In particular I broke up that paragraph separating the topics of the American crawl and the Australian crawl, and added some clumsy language to the Australian one, I'm not sure if they created the final Australian crawl from their inspiration?
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I get the how-to portion somewhat. However, there's a lot of ambiguity present. If you're not going to use the words like left and right, could you say, first arm, second arm. Also could you mention more clearly at which point your arm is above the water (more or less). Or just say left and right and mention that this is non-exclusive (some people are left-handed, some are right-handed). Starting arm / follow-up arm, etc..
With regards to the speeds, the speeds don't matter. Rather point them to the other article on Freestyling for speed record information. What we're shooting for here is not the most perfect and efficient professional-level way to do this stroke, we only want to know how to get some exercise with it.
per Mswake on flat vs roll -- in pretty much every sport you have circular motions. I think the original poster was trying to say that the torso part of your body should stay flat like a board, not horizontally flat. So when you roll, your shoulders all the way down to your hips roll, not just your shoulders or just your hips. Does that make sense? I don't know the stroke so I can't say.
Rogertdj (talk) 21:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I as a swimmer would like to comment that front crawl is regarded as the fastest stroke but is not always the fastest depending on who is swimming it. I've seen other strokes have times that rival front crawl and even beat it.
I revised it to indicate that the British swam heads-up breaststroke; I hope that is what was meant (it was not entirely clear to me).
Revised the "maximum speed" from 1.7 to 2 m/s: 50 seconds for 100m is not uncommon and equals 2 m/s.
Also revised the section on body movement. This is how the first two sentences stood:
"The body stays as flat in the water as possible to reduce drag. The body rolls sideways with both the hips and the shoulders with every arm stroke such that the shoulder of the recovering arm is higher than the shoulder of the pushing/pulling arm."
These two sentences contradict one another: either the body stays flat, or it rolls. In fact, it rolls, and this is not discouraged in modern coaching, for the reasons I've given.
Mswake 21:07, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- The 50 seconds for 100m includes the start and turns, which are considerably faster than actual swimming. If you exclude the start and turns, you'll have a speed of about
1.7m per seconds2.17 meter per second. I change the speedback to 1.7m, and clarify a bit. My source for the speeds is www.swim.ee. It also goes into more detail about the speed of the turns and starts. -- Chris 73 | Talk 22:33, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The stroke is most commonly called "The Australian Crawl" rather that just "Australian Crawl".